There's an issue

Discussion in 'Survival Server Issues' started by NMBr2d2, Jan 23, 2014.

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  1. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

    I lied, there are many issues. I want to address them all. The first thing I would like to address the very likely possibility that this is removed. If it is, I will make it blatantly obvious that the server is corrupt until I am permanently banned from every connection to this server. This is less of a threat than it is a warning. The server will tear itself to shreds if it continues on the way it is.

    There needs to be 2 levels of staff. Admin and Mod.
    You can only be a staff member on one server.
    If you aren't trusted enough to have console, then you shouldn't be an admin, pretty simple.
    If you aren't trusted to be mod, then you SHOULD NOT BE MOD. This does not mean make a useless group for people that you like that shouldn't have mod, or people who you hate that should. Becoming a mod needs to be on how well you preform the job, and that's it. If you aren't trusted to be an admin, then you should be a mod. Again, pretty simple.

    The rules need to be simple and to the point. The issue we just had started because of a misunderstanding of the rules. Past this we need a stable punishment system. If people get banned for different lengths of time for different actions then it will seem unfair to the person banned longer. In addition we need to enforce the ban appeal rule, and apply it to all report type posts. If you aren't related to the subject at all, don't post. If you are, post and make it know why you are related before you get flamed. Don't go posting after somebody who posted in a ban appeal inappropriately. Just report the post and ask for it to be removed.
    Edit: The way the rules can be interpreted needs to be changed. If you can take it more than one way we have an issue.

    Removing Posts
    Unless the post has nothing to offer to the thread, it should NOT be removed. The only thing removing any post does is give the person who's post was removed ammunition against the staff, and unless it was justified, then its some damn good ammunition.

    Yes this is all prompted by recent events, but what happened is a prime example of the need for change.
    I don't care what anybody has to say. This is what needs to happen. If you don't like it you can click one of these.
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  2. SkittlesQueen

    SkittlesQueen Active Member VIP

    I gotta agree,we do need "mature" staff I mean sure joking is fine but when things like what has happened comes, we need the mature staff to change to serious and not again I agree

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  3. epic_poke8

    epic_poke8 Active Member VIP

    We have a problem when NMB is asking for a more mature staff. I mean no offence, NMB, it's just... well... you act kiddish. There's nothin' wrong with that!
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  4. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

    I appreciate this post and am not going to ask for it removed because he has an opinion.
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  5. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    Apart from the first paragraph (Due to the fact that I don't play survival enough to judge corruptibility), I agree with you 100%

    The part which got me, was the fact that these are all things which are already rules/should have already been done.
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  6. CanOpenerTrooper

    CanOpenerTrooper Well-Known Member VIP

    Seems like a good idea.
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  7. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

    This needs a bump. This thread will not die.
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  8. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

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  9. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    Looking back on the thread again.

    Why do you say there needs to be two levels of staff?
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  10. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

    Because having 3 levels and calling the third and least powerful group the same as the second is just insulting. If you can't be trusted to roll things back and lightly punish people for little chat rules then you shouldn't have a staff position, its demeaning and practically a game for the people that keep that group in the position they're in (This is basically talking about pad). Putting more thought into the admin bit, demoting or punishing another staff member should be up to all of the staff, not 1 person. Same deal with an unusual broken rule, so that there is plenty of thought put in, and then once the punishment is handed out the guilty party should be told what will happen next time, and the punishment given should be added to the rules, no matter how specific (The less grey areas the better).
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  11. Rem

    Rem Active Member VIP

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  12. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    Oh, I forgot about how senior mods were now a thing.

    My bad on that.

    Also, please don't bump threads until around 24 hours of inactivity. All it does is send a notification to the people already involved in this thread.
  13. Slebert

    Slebert Active Member VIP

    I may have left the server but I want this place fixed so I'll put my 2 cents in :p

    Staff should not be able to demote people who are in the same position as them, that means admins can't ban admins, unless they are literally destroying the server then this should have to be decided on by a higher power(max), for example the recent banning of awasted should not of happened, yes he made a bad call, but that dosnt give someone of the same rank the right to demote and ban him, he was so dedicated to the server, and more thought should have been put into the banning of him, he didn't deserve it. Admins are equal and mods are equal, it's a god Damn community, act more like one!

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  14. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    On a side note from that:

    Does anyone know what happened to Awas? He hasn't been as vocal as the majority of you, despite falling the hardest.

    and while I see where you're coming from, it's not as black and white as that. If you (Slebert, and not anyone else) want to know why, then I would be happy to take this to a private conversation.
  15. I_am_dropbear

    I_am_dropbear Active Member

    moment of silence to remember AwastedLife
  16. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    I would also like to point out that he's also as dead as Slebert, Rem and NMB are.
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  17. I_am_dropbear

    I_am_dropbear Active Member

    but like you said, he fell the hardest
  18. Slebert

    Slebert Active Member VIP

    Awasted fell off the face of the internet for like 3 days... He's only been seen for about 5 min on teamspeak, and I dont think he's ever coming back... Its a big hit to the community to lose someone so dedicated and who cared so much about the server.

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  19. NMBr2d2

    NMBr2d2 Well-Known Member VIP

    I don't think anybody understands EXACTLY how hard wasted was hit by this. For 2 years he had put at least 5 hours each day into this server, and definitely more thinking about it, only to have it stripped away from him in a matter of days. I'm not saying that a lot of us didn't experience that, especially me, but when you're in college and you waste more than 3650 hours of your life I'd imagine that you'd be a little depressed.
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  20. Magetime

    Magetime Active Member VIP

    What NMB said and awasted was in touch with the community, he knew what was going on and what was up with everyone. Awasted got out of hands a couple times but to be stripped down just because of a little incident? I guess he's supposed to be a mature role model but everyone has to break lose everyone now and then?
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