New vote rewards thread! [So vote rewards break the eula]

Discussion in 'Minecraft Discussions' started by ezeiger92, Aug 29, 2016.

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  1. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    This thread had some good suggestions, so now it is a thread about suggestions! (Instead of me being a sourpuss)

    Vote goals wanted!
    We need rewards that work with our brand new system (read more here!)
    Each reward needs to benefit the whole server (or all those online at a period of time)

    There is no required format for a suggestion, but we need these points:

    Description: A quick (or detailed) summary of your idea
    Vote count: A suggestion amount of votes for this goal to activate
    Cool-down: (Optional) A period of time that this goal would not be able to activate again

    Current list:
    • Mining reset: 1,000 votes; once per month
    • ...

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  2. Jojomojobfh

    Jojomojobfh Member

    Lol what. They can't be serious.

    Well, atleast we got that quest system.
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  3. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    I guess we'll finish up this month with rewards, then kill them off.
  4. Mega_Spud

    Mega_Spud Active Member VIP

    You probably read this already, but what do you think about the quoted suggestion from Mojang? :
  5. Jojomojobfh

    Jojomojobfh Member

    Seems overly complicated, but it could work.
  6. TheTechGeek245

    TheTechGeek245 Well-Known Member VIP

    We aren't the only ones that are upset by this. I can see the community revolting if Mojang keeps changing their mind/getting stricter on the ELUA.
  7. StephenP67

    StephenP67 Well-Known Member VIP

    That is ridiculous. Without servers Minecraft wouldn't enjoy the popularity that it does. LOL "Intellectual Property Enforcement Agent". I guess this comes down to Realms wanting a bigger slice of the pie.
  8. PieSquared761

    PieSquared761 Well-Known Member VIP

    At least the server is large enough to get noticed by Mojang
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  9. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    Well I just noticed this happening to other servers, and I was apparently a month late to the game. We didn't actually get a message from Mojang, the picture is from another person :x
  10. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    I could, but:
    The unofficial stance from CyberVic is "No! NO! Fuck that, we're not complying, that's fucking stupid"

    Really though, making unique donation perks that work with the server is difficult and takes time, and making new "donator" perks for voting is just way too much work. Because apparently "the time spent voting" is analogous to "giving money".
  11. Mega_Spud

    Mega_Spud Active Member VIP

    It does seem a bit ott, I don't know why they'd stretch the Eula enforcement to include voting, I guess they don't want voting sites monetised off the back of their game (?).
    Anyway it wouldn't be that hard to set up rewards for all.
    "If we reach x votes this week, then on Friday at 8 pm everyone online gets x rupies"
    It would bounce between players not voting and sponging the rewards, but could balance out.
    Could do it on a Sunday before events?
  12. Jojomojobfh

    Jojomojobfh Member

    Alternatively, we could just use our current system, except everybody online gets the voting rewards. I don't think that would be too hard to implement. This would maybe work with our server without getting too unbalanced, due to our relatively small size and close knit community.
  13. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    Problems: That is a pain to automate, it is not clear to players, and time zones.
    Events haven't been run for quite a while. I've been away from home for about a week and a half (still away), and this weekend is the only time I have before college starts back up.

    We don't do things under the assumption that the server will stay small. Damn near everything we've been doing has had the goal of growing the server. In addition, that would actually be more work than Mega's suggestion because of the way our plugin works.

    The best thing I can think of (right now) is 1000 votes causes a mining reset
    • Each vote would run a command that adds 1 to the vote count
    • When significant progress is made (increments of 5% - 10%?), it announces a progress message
    • When 1000 is reached, resource worlds reset and the counter resets
    • [edit] Limited to once per time period (2-4 weeks). Additional votes should do something else
    Still work, but less of a pain and it [mining reset] already needs to be automated in some fashion.
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  14. Mega_Spud

    Mega_Spud Active Member VIP

    That's a great idea!
  15. Jojomojobfh

    Jojomojobfh Member

    I think it's a good function for the voting system. Though I am not sure if it should be a permanent solution.
  16. StephenP67

    StephenP67 Well-Known Member VIP

    Mining reset sounds like a great solution.
  17. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    I've got the mechanics for tallying votes, cool-downs, and running commands on goal completion working.

    All that's left is making resource worlds fully reset via a command.
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  18. Legend9468

    Legend9468 Well-Known Member VIP

    It's 1am for me, so this suggestion is not all that serious; but you could set it so that every hundred (100) votes does something like make fireworks go off at the player, or turn rain off in the over world. 1000 votes took us a whole month to get to, so more frequent ones would be good.

    Or you could give everyone on the server a buff like night vision or speed (not regen or stuff like that), things that help but won't over balance the gameplay.

    This is assuming the automation works anyway. Don't want to make any more work for you.
  19. ezeiger92

    ezeiger92 Well-Known Member Lead Admin Survival Admin

    You are exactly right, I just haven't added anything else yet.
    We already have a mechanic for applying potion effects, changing weather, and changing daylight for the server for a period of time. The vip shop does all of these through /donate.

    How about health boost for 4 hours at 100 votes? Maybe increase the level each 100 votes after that?
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  20. Alosapien

    Alosapien New Member

    a possible reward is a quests cooldown reduction, like after 50 votes quest cooldown could progess 2 hours or something.

    I think low end voting should be rewarded as well, to provide short term incentive. maybe 10 votes and everyone gets random silly hats for 5 minutes

    would town-wide rewards be against what mojang is asking for?
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